The Wire Salon at Cafe OTO

The third in a series of events hosted by The Wire magazine looking at the impact of AI on contemporary music making. Tickets

Generative music systems were around long before generative AI. This event looks at a previous history of music as a series of inputs, workflows, and rules-based processes, from Fluxus onward. What are the choices that inform generative music systems internally (in scores, programming, and technical possibilities) and externally (in power structures between performers, users, and corporations)?

Generative AI also generates its outputs from massive datasets, and can be ‘trained’ on the work of thousands of anonymised creative artists. Debates are heated about copyright, ownership and originality, and the consent of artists and creators to be used in these massive datasets. What does Generative AI say to the rules we have about what constitutes agency and identity, and the distinction between self and other in relation to information transmission and exchange? Looking into plunderphonics, folk, sampling and copy cultures, were or are other paths possible?

Loré Lixenberg and Elaine Mitchener are both vocalists, composers and improvisors working in the realms of new music, experimental music, music theatre, performance and visual art. For this Salon they will perform a selection of early process-based scores in which the rules are transparent and all too human. 

Vicki Bennett (People Like Us) is a multidisciplinary British artist recognised for her immersive audiovisual collages and unique approach to mass media as contemporary folk art. Her contribution to this Salon will lift off from her ongoing advocacy for open access to creative content, and her practice of freely sharing her work online and championing the principles of the gift economy. Bennett regards sampling as a potent metaphor for culture and consciousness’s interconnected and ever-shifting nature. In her view, everything exists in a state of flux, and meaning is always relational rather than fixed. Through her practice, she draws attention to the fluid dialogues woven throughout cultural production, challenging conventional ideas about originality and the boundaries of artistic ownership.

Mattie Colqhoun (Xenogothic) is a writer, researcher, and biographer of Mark Fisher. For this event they will be presenting on the implications of AI for blogospheric topics from the 2000s-2010s, regarding hauntology, salvagepunk and accelerationism as three different approaches to the cultural production of the new and how the recombinatory processes of AI sampling are changing our relationship to appropriation and sampling in music. 

The event will conclude with a panel moderated by writer and Wire contributor Robert Barry.

https://www.lorelixenberg.art
https://www.elainemitchener.com
https://peoplelikeus.org
https://xenogothic.com
https://www.thewire.co.uk

Video of our Cafe OTO residency!

We’ve made an edit of the video that we shot of our Cafe OTO residency, here it is.

edit by Vicki

Thanks to those of you who managed to attend the event, and all of you who’ve helped fund my IndieGoGo campaign this year, along with our Patreons who help us on a day-to-day basis to pay for our rather steep usage of computer-related electricity power, and Café OTO for being totally brilliant. And of course, my friends, the artists, my inspiration!

Now we will return to making more of our solo performance The Library of Babel (which you see an excerpt of in the above video), continuing to make a new album.

People Like Us Residency at Cafe OTO

PEOPLE LIKE US Cafe OTO ARTIST RESIDENCY 
27 / 28 / 29 OCTOBER 2023

PEOPLE LIKE US | MAGGIE NICOLS | ERGO PHIZMIZ | GWILLY EDMONDEZ | POREST | IRENE MOON | ERIK BUNGER | HEARTY WHITE

Vicki edit of our residency!

Cafe OTO is proud to announce a new artist residency, featuring multimedia artist Vicki Bennett aka People Like Us. Vicki has collaborated with a wide range of artists and musicians; some are joining us for this 3-Day residency, both solo and in collaboration. The residency includes a preview of the new People Like Us audiovisual performance The Library of Babel.

Carl Stone and People Like Us live collaboration

CARL STONE AT 70 – THREE-DAY RESIDENCY at CAFE OTO – 13 TO 15 JULY 2023
As part of this residency People Like Us will join Carl Stone (along with Scanner) for a panel and live performance.

FRIDAY 14 JULY 2023, 8PM
CARL STONE / KAZUHISA UCHIHASHI (DUO) + CARL STONE (SOLO) + PANEL DISCUSSION WITH CARL STONE / VICKI BENNETT / SCANNER / EMILY BICK

£15 £13 ADVANCE £8 MEMBERS

SATURDAY 15 JULY 2023, 8PM
“MISCHIEVOUS MISAPPROPRIATION MAYHEM” (CARL STONE / VICKI BENNETT / SCANNER) + CARL STONE (SOLO) + SYLVIA KASTEL (DJ)

£15 £13 ADVANCE £8 MEMBERS

After the fact: here’s a clip, courtesy of Robin Rimbaud:

Cafe OTO is delighted to host a very-special 70th birthday residency with pioneering composer, Carl Stone! Featuring avant-garde electronics, forensic sampling, and live computing unveiling a strange musical language, these will be his first London performances in five years.

Dubbed the King of Sampling by the Village Voice, and one of the pioneers of live computer music. Carl Stone started originally with tape recorders and turntables in 1972. In 1986 he adapted his performance to include live computing, which he continues to this day. In addition to solo performance, he often collaborates with other musicians in ensembles that merge and blend musical reality. Pitchfork called Stone’s music “like a dance party in a room made of funhouse mirrors” and the New York Times called it “a powerful stimulant with lingering euphoric effects”.

Now in his 70th year, Carl Stone’s plan for his Cafe OTO residency will feature his solo work, plus collaborators helping him explore acoustic resonance, media bombardment, Irony, elegance, economy and wit. Guests include Robin Rimbaud (Scanner), Vicki Bennett (People Like Us), Miki Yui (Realistic Monk), Kazuhisa Uchihashi and Silvia Kastel, plus panel discussions, interviews and DJ time!

30 Years of People Like Us – Cafe OTO gig with PLU and friends

30 YEARS OF PEOPLE LIKE US – PEOPLE LIKE US + POREST + GWILLY EDMONDEZ + IRENE MOON + ERGO PHIZMIZ at CAFE OTO London

CAFE OTO, LONDON
TUESDAY 16 NOVEMBER 2021, 7.30PM
£16 DOOR | £14 ADVANCE | £8 MEMBERS

An evening hosted by Vicki Bennett (People Like Us), featuring live performances from Porest, Gwilly Edmondez, Irene Moon, Ergo Phizmiz and People Like Us.

Get tickets well in advance here because Cafe OTO gigs are selling out quickly.
https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/events/30-years-of-people-like-us/

Supporting Negativland in London

(L-R) Mark Porest, Jon Wobbly/Negativland, Mark Negativland, Vicki PLU and Irene Moon

People Like Us will be on the same performance bill as Negativland for the first time in 22 years at London’s Cafe Oto on 27 October 2019, performing The Horror!! An a/v concert which selects from the more scary (and funny) segments of Vicki’s work, newest and old. Also on the bill the following night will be our friend Irene Moon.
https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/events/baba-yagas-hut-presents-negativland/
(update – 27th has sold out, tickets still available for the 28th, no PLU, but Irene Moon instead)

Stage times :
Doors 7:30
Yuko – 7:50 – 8:20
People Like Us (27th) / Irene Moon (28th) – 8:40 – 9:10
Negativland – 9:30 – 10:50

People Like Us & Carl Stone double bill at Cafe Oto

People Like Us and Carl Stone will be on the same bill at London’s Cafe Oto on Wednesday 11 July 2018, Doors Open 7.30PM
Q&A 8pm, People Like Us 8.30pm, Carl Stone 9.30pm

People Like Us will be supporting Carl Stone (so be there by 8!) performing our new a/v work The Mirror. The evening will begin with a Q&A between Vicki and Carl.

The concerts are being recorded for BBC Radio 3’s “Hear and Now”.

Buy tickets here.

The Mirror at Cafe Oto, London

FRIDAY 20 APRIL 2018, 7.30PM at CAFE OTO, LONDON
POREST + PEOPLE LIKE US + KINK GONG
£15 £13 (WEGOTTICKETS)


On 20 April 2018, People Like Us will be presenting the London premiere of The Mirror as part of a two-day Discrepant label residency at London’s Cafe Oto.  Also on the bill, our old friends Porest, and also Kink Gong. The excellent Discrepant record label celebrates its seventh anniversary with a diverse and vital cross section of artists from the roster. www.discrepant.net

People Like Us LP launch at Cafe Oto

DISCREPANT PRESENTS: PEOPLE LIKE US, MIKE COOPER + TYPHONIAN HIGHLIFE (SPENCER CLARK) at CAFE OTO, LONDON
TUESDAY 28 FEBRUARY 2017, Doors open 7.30PM
£12 (door) £10 ADVANCE £8 CAFE OTO MEMBERS

People Like Us will perform at Cafe Oto in February as part of an evening hosted by the label Discrepant, to celebrate the release of LPs by People Like Us, and Mike Cooper. People Like Us will be doing a combination from four different previous performances, commencing at approximately 8.30pm. Full listing here.

Abridged Too Far” is the first of a series of vinyl by Discrepant to celebrate this being the 25th year of People Like Us publishing albums.  It has only ever been available in digital form on UbuWeb.

The LP pressing has been held up at the pressing plant and will not be ready for the concert, but you can pre-order direct from us NOW: https://peoplelikeus.org/2017/abridged-too-far-album-now-vinyl/

OR… IF you come to the concert you can fill in your email address at the merchandise table to exclusively purchase Abridged Too Far for £10. This is exclusive to this concert only.  The Mike Cooper album is already available on Discrepant’s site.